Comments on: Wonky public relations, an internal flagship holy war and some biscuits http://sashahalima.com/blog/2009/08/wonky-public-relations-an-internal-flagship-holy-war-and-some-biscuits/ Public Relations & Trends Blog by: Sasha H. Muradali Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:06:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sasha H. Muradali http://sashahalima.com/blog/2009/08/wonky-public-relations-an-internal-flagship-holy-war-and-some-biscuits/comment-page-1/#comment-2436 Sasha H. Muradali Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:29:42 +0000 http://sashahalima.com/blog/?p=4235#comment-2436 That's an really insightful POV. Are race relations really that bad? I<br>didn't know that, well I did -- but I thought it evolved from say the riots<br>of the 1980s.<br><br>But I just wonder about the issue on the whole, because it really struck me<br>as a giant misunderstanding, I think the BBC, itself, could have avoided it<br>all together had they paid more attention.<br><br>Then the clean up doesn't seem very smooth either. It's a misunderstanding<br>with poor PR.<br><br>But you are right, I suppose this is one of those cases that unless you<br>where "there," maybe you don't really know what the solution would be.<br><br>Thanks Danny :) That's an really insightful POV. Are race relations really that bad? I
didn't know that, well I did — but I thought it evolved from say the riots
of the 1980s.

But I just wonder about the issue on the whole, because it really struck me
as a giant misunderstanding, I think the BBC, itself, could have avoided it
all together had they paid more attention.

Then the clean up doesn't seem very smooth either. It's a misunderstanding
with poor PR.

But you are right, I suppose this is one of those cases that unless you
where “there,” maybe you don't really know what the solution would be.

Thanks Danny :)

]]> By: Sasha H. Muradali http://sashahalima.com/blog/2009/08/wonky-public-relations-an-internal-flagship-holy-war-and-some-biscuits/comment-page-1/#comment-1826 Sasha H. Muradali Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:29:42 +0000 http://sashahalima.com/blog/?p=4235#comment-1826 That's an really insightful POV. Are race relations really that bad? I<br>didn't know that, well I did -- but I thought it evolved from say the riots<br>of the 1980s.<br><br>But I just wonder about the issue on the whole, because it really struck me<br>as a giant misunderstanding, I think the BBC, itself, could have avoided it<br>all together had they paid more attention.<br><br>Then the clean up doesn't seem very smooth either. It's a misunderstanding<br>with poor PR.<br><br>But you are right, I suppose this is one of those cases that unless you<br>where "there," maybe you don't really know what the solution would be.<br><br>Thanks Danny :) That's an really insightful POV. Are race relations really that bad? I
didn't know that, well I did — but I thought it evolved from say the riots
of the 1980s.

But I just wonder about the issue on the whole, because it really struck me
as a giant misunderstanding, I think the BBC, itself, could have avoided it
all together had they paid more attention.

Then the clean up doesn't seem very smooth either. It's a misunderstanding
with poor PR.

But you are right, I suppose this is one of those cases that unless you
where “there,” maybe you don't really know what the solution would be.

Thanks Danny :)

]]> By: Danny Brown http://sashahalima.com/blog/2009/08/wonky-public-relations-an-internal-flagship-holy-war-and-some-biscuits/comment-page-1/#comment-1824 Danny Brown Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:46:32 +0000 http://sashahalima.com/blog/?p=4235#comment-1824 Coming from the UK, this is an area that has sorely been misunderstood for years. It doesn't help that the UK is inherently quite a racist country. Not everyone; but it's one of the countries with the most issues whenever you read multi-national reports.<br><br>Yes, it may be that Adil is Muslim but just the very fact he is a Muslim will upset people. Then you have those that just want to challenge the establishment, so any chance they have will be jumped on.<br><br>I don't think there's an easy answer to this. When a country tries to adopt a multi-ethnical approach and fail miserably with their "own" inhabitants before inviting anyone else in, you're simply asking for the torch to be lit. Coming from the UK, this is an area that has sorely been misunderstood for years. It doesn't help that the UK is inherently quite a racist country. Not everyone; but it's one of the countries with the most issues whenever you read multi-national reports.

Yes, it may be that Adil is Muslim but just the very fact he is a Muslim will upset people. Then you have those that just want to challenge the establishment, so any chance they have will be jumped on.

I don't think there's an easy answer to this. When a country tries to adopt a multi-ethnical approach and fail miserably with their “own” inhabitants before inviting anyone else in, you're simply asking for the torch to be lit.

]]> By: Varmanator http://sashahalima.com/blog/2009/08/wonky-public-relations-an-internal-flagship-holy-war-and-some-biscuits/comment-page-1/#comment-1815 Varmanator Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:20:36 +0000 http://sashahalima.com/blog/?p=4235#comment-1815 Yes, I think Chai and Chatting would work :)<br>But I think the bigger issue here is that Sikhs don't feel understood in the one place where they should feel understood, comfortable and valued the most. I think BBC Asian Network should take steps to not only smooth the tension, and cultural insensitivity, but also to make more Sikh friendly programming, or even a sikh radio personality... Yes, I think Chai and Chatting would work :)
But I think the bigger issue here is that Sikhs don't feel understood in the one place where they should feel understood, comfortable and valued the most. I think BBC Asian Network should take steps to not only smooth the tension, and cultural insensitivity, but also to make more Sikh friendly programming, or even a sikh radio personality…

]]> By: Stefan Pinto http://sashahalima.com/blog/2009/08/wonky-public-relations-an-internal-flagship-holy-war-and-some-biscuits/comment-page-1/#comment-1814 Stefan Pinto Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:53:57 +0000 http://sashahalima.com/blog/?p=4235#comment-1814 Yes, embrace it. Always works. Yes, embrace it. Always works.

]]> By: Sasha H. Muradali http://sashahalima.com/blog/2009/08/wonky-public-relations-an-internal-flagship-holy-war-and-some-biscuits/comment-page-1/#comment-1813 Sasha H. Muradali Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:12:43 +0000 http://sashahalima.com/blog/?p=4235#comment-1813 I think a huge part of it is culture -- but I also think that sitting down<br>and talking with them would work...to a particular degree.<br><br>One of the reasons it was blown so highly out of proportion was the watchdog<br>media network. Now if that organization had a person sit down and talk with<br>maybe other religious experts etc., on air w/ the same host -- I think that<br>would be productive. The BBC has programs like this anyway already in place,<br>so to modify an existing format to combat an issue is less work on their<br>part.<br><br>I don't think it should be alcohol however, I think a tea or "chai" hour<br>would be better = Chai Hour. I think a huge part of it is culture — but I also think that sitting down
and talking with them would work…to a particular degree.

One of the reasons it was blown so highly out of proportion was the watchdog
media network. Now if that organization had a person sit down and talk with
maybe other religious experts etc., on air w/ the same host — I think that
would be productive. The BBC has programs like this anyway already in place,
so to modify an existing format to combat an issue is less work on their
part.

I don't think it should be alcohol however, I think a tea or “chai” hour
would be better = Chai Hour.

]]> By: laurenfernandez http://sashahalima.com/blog/2009/08/wonky-public-relations-an-internal-flagship-holy-war-and-some-biscuits/comment-page-1/#comment-1811 laurenfernandez Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:27:28 +0000 http://sashahalima.com/blog/?p=4235#comment-1811 A big part of this is culture, third world countries and a religious aspect. Many times, an apology isn't enough. They hear words, but don't see actions. They can apologize until they are blue in the face, but PR 101 won't work on this one. It has to be specific to the case.<br><br>I'm not sure if an 'Obama Happy Hour' would work here either. Again, it's a culture thing. They might take offense to it. Outside the U.S. and select European countries, they would take offense to this. That's not an apology to them. <br><br>It's a fine line, and it might seem to be blown out of proportion, but we have to remember that not everyone lives the same style as us. A big part of this is culture, third world countries and a religious aspect. Many times, an apology isn't enough. They hear words, but don't see actions. They can apologize until they are blue in the face, but PR 101 won't work on this one. It has to be specific to the case.

I'm not sure if an 'Obama Happy Hour' would work here either. Again, it's a culture thing. They might take offense to it. Outside the U.S. and select European countries, they would take offense to this. That's not an apology to them.

It's a fine line, and it might seem to be blown out of proportion, but we have to remember that not everyone lives the same style as us.

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